Police teach tactics for handling 'sovereign citizens'
The FBI classifies such people, who refuse to recognize government authority in virtually any form, as part of a domestic terrorist movement.
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| Two police officers and two people who considered themselves "sovereign… (Alan Spearman, The Commercial…) |
GREENSBORO, N.C. — With his shaggy hair, bushy mustache and obstinate ways, Jeffrey Allen Wright was well known to sheriff's deputies in Santa Rosa County, Fla.
Wright, 55, drove around with a phony license plate. -proof of claim? When stopped, he refused to produce a driver's license. Once he threatened to sue a deputy who pulled him over.
After he was fined for traffic offenses in September, Wright paid with counterfeit money orders. -proof of claim? When deputies served warrants for felony counterfeiting March 8, Wright barricaded himself in his garage and declared that he would not be "a servant of the king."
Using the most extreme example they can find to try to paint a particular picture rather than an accurate one. Has anyone with a licence ever chosen to barricade themselves rather than to have an arrest warrent served on them?
He broke out windows with a handgun, then pointed the weapon at officers, police said. -so it might be true- Three deputies fired, killing Wright.
When Det. Rob Finch of the Greensboro police department heard about the incident, two words came to mind: sovereign citizen.
Finch teaches police and public officials around the country how to deal with self-described "sovereign citizens" like Wright. Finch and his partner, Det. Kory Flowers, have trained nearly 15,000 police and 5,000 public officials to combat sovereigns, zealots who refuse to recognize government authority in virtually any form.
So they expect us to believe that Finch is "training" them. Who is this bloke really?
Violent confrontations are rare, -so lets highlight them anyway says the hit piece journalist and see if we can program you a bit- but the FBI says -without proof- at least six police officers have been killed by sovereigns since 2000. A man tied to the movement -i wonder where the clubhouse is- shot and killed a California Highway Patrol officer who stopped him in Contra Costa County last year. A responding officer shot and killed the assailant.
Have you noticed how in both examples, the so-called sovereign has been shot? Presuming that the claims of this journalist are actually true, and the sovereigns haven't been murdered, it looks pretty obvious that pulling a gun at a 'traffic stop' is not a good idea in America. Then again, i am yet to see ANYWHERE, at any time, anyone ever suggest that you should produce a gun when dealing with the police on the side of the road.
The agency calls sovereigns — who number between 100,000 and 300,000 — a "domestic terrorist movement." -again with the baseless claim in this shameful propaganda hit piece.
This time of year -complete bullshit, basically this is an attempt to instill a false sense has federal authorities -notice how they keep referring to authorities, as if public servants could be your authority or exist between you and the divine creator- on alert, since a central tenet -more claims, and guess what? Still no proof- of the sovereigns movement is that its adherents believe they owe no income taxes.
Sovereigns assert that the U.S. Treasury has set up a secret money account for every American, which can be reclaimed through a bizarre set of legal filings known as redemption. They say everything from taxes to traffic tickets can be disposed of by drawing on the secret Treasury accounts through elaborate legal claims and mountains of paperwork.
Interesting perversion. Notice the phrase 'mountains of paperwork'? This is a phrase used over and over again in hit pieces of this nature. Articles like this get written because we are starting to eat into their livestock.
Many sovereigns file invoices with police or judges, demanding hundreds of dollars an hour for time spent stopped by officers or when in court to answer charges.
Finch, 31, said his training sessions began after several sovereigns pulled over by Greensboro police in 2008 and 2009 refused to produce driver's licenses. They demanded that officers recite oaths of office and fill out long questionnaires.
"To them, a police officer is just a man in a Halloween costume," Finch said.
i'm shocked. They finally get something right.
Other police departments began requesting their eight-hour seminars. Finch and Flowers now train agents of the FBI, DEA, ATF and Homeland Security — as well as district attorneys, clerks of court, judges and registrars nationwide. Finch says they are the only officers in the country who offer such street-level training.
They teach police to recognize sovereigns by their convoluted legal jargon and "mouthy" defiance. -Whilst it looks like this article is getting rather silly, it is actually more programming the herd to accept unproven and ridiculous claims by a guy that the article is presenting as an expert. These people do not need training to recognise a group of people who are recognisable visually from the outside because of the employment of a private plate or through the employment of documents whereby such information is expressed plainly and simply. The usage of the term "mouthy defiance" infers the authority/parental figure in a indirect manner. Again, the questions bears asking: how can you be defiant to an inferior being like a public servant?
"Sovereign citizens are more likely not to obey their commands -again with the programming that the police/gov/courts etc are your authority, again the journalist is using the indirect method, this time saying that sovereign's are (unlike you, the 'good' reader and citizen) to be naughty and do not obey commands. Trained dogs obey commands.- and more likely to commit violence -back to the unproven claims of violence- during a traffic stop," Finch said.
Finch and Flowers often cite the 2010 deaths of two police officers in West Memphis, Ark., who were shot by a father-son sovereign team during a traffic stop for a bogus license plate. One officer had become distracted by a thick sheaf of papers thrust at him by one of the sovereigns.
Yet more unproven claims, this time stating that paperwork is a distraction tool so that sovereigns can then murder police officers. Even if it did happen like that, it does not mean that it will repeat. And i am yet to see the seminar anywhere on the net, where i was advised to issue notice then gunfire.
Wright, 55, drove around with a phony license plate. -proof of claim? When stopped, he refused to produce a driver's license. Once he threatened to sue a deputy who pulled him over.
After he was fined for traffic offenses in September, Wright paid with counterfeit money orders. -proof of claim? When deputies served warrants for felony counterfeiting March 8, Wright barricaded himself in his garage and declared that he would not be "a servant of the king."
Using the most extreme example they can find to try to paint a particular picture rather than an accurate one. Has anyone with a licence ever chosen to barricade themselves rather than to have an arrest warrent served on them?
He broke out windows with a handgun, then pointed the weapon at officers, police said. -so it might be true- Three deputies fired, killing Wright.
When Det. Rob Finch of the Greensboro police department heard about the incident, two words came to mind: sovereign citizen.
Finch teaches police and public officials around the country how to deal with self-described "sovereign citizens" like Wright. Finch and his partner, Det. Kory Flowers, have trained nearly 15,000 police and 5,000 public officials to combat sovereigns, zealots who refuse to recognize government authority in virtually any form.
So they expect us to believe that Finch is "training" them. Who is this bloke really?
Violent confrontations are rare, -so lets highlight them anyway says the hit piece journalist and see if we can program you a bit- but the FBI says -without proof- at least six police officers have been killed by sovereigns since 2000. A man tied to the movement -i wonder where the clubhouse is- shot and killed a California Highway Patrol officer who stopped him in Contra Costa County last year. A responding officer shot and killed the assailant.
Have you noticed how in both examples, the so-called sovereign has been shot? Presuming that the claims of this journalist are actually true, and the sovereigns haven't been murdered, it looks pretty obvious that pulling a gun at a 'traffic stop' is not a good idea in America. Then again, i am yet to see ANYWHERE, at any time, anyone ever suggest that you should produce a gun when dealing with the police on the side of the road.
The agency calls sovereigns — who number between 100,000 and 300,000 — a "domestic terrorist movement." -again with the baseless claim in this shameful propaganda hit piece.
This time of year -complete bullshit, basically this is an attempt to instill a false sense has federal authorities -notice how they keep referring to authorities, as if public servants could be your authority or exist between you and the divine creator- on alert, since a central tenet -more claims, and guess what? Still no proof- of the sovereigns movement is that its adherents believe they owe no income taxes.
Sovereigns assert that the U.S. Treasury has set up a secret money account for every American, which can be reclaimed through a bizarre set of legal filings known as redemption. They say everything from taxes to traffic tickets can be disposed of by drawing on the secret Treasury accounts through elaborate legal claims and mountains of paperwork.
Interesting perversion. Notice the phrase 'mountains of paperwork'? This is a phrase used over and over again in hit pieces of this nature. Articles like this get written because we are starting to eat into their livestock.
Many sovereigns file invoices with police or judges, demanding hundreds of dollars an hour for time spent stopped by officers or when in court to answer charges.
Finch, 31, said his training sessions began after several sovereigns pulled over by Greensboro police in 2008 and 2009 refused to produce driver's licenses. They demanded that officers recite oaths of office and fill out long questionnaires.
"To them, a police officer is just a man in a Halloween costume," Finch said.
i'm shocked. They finally get something right.
Other police departments began requesting their eight-hour seminars. Finch and Flowers now train agents of the FBI, DEA, ATF and Homeland Security — as well as district attorneys, clerks of court, judges and registrars nationwide. Finch says they are the only officers in the country who offer such street-level training.
They teach police to recognize sovereigns by their convoluted legal jargon and "mouthy" defiance. -Whilst it looks like this article is getting rather silly, it is actually more programming the herd to accept unproven and ridiculous claims by a guy that the article is presenting as an expert. These people do not need training to recognise a group of people who are recognisable visually from the outside because of the employment of a private plate or through the employment of documents whereby such information is expressed plainly and simply. The usage of the term "mouthy defiance" infers the authority/parental figure in a indirect manner. Again, the questions bears asking: how can you be defiant to an inferior being like a public servant?
"Sovereign citizens are more likely not to obey their commands -again with the programming that the police/gov/courts etc are your authority, again the journalist is using the indirect method, this time saying that sovereign's are (unlike you, the 'good' reader and citizen) to be naughty and do not obey commands. Trained dogs obey commands.- and more likely to commit violence -back to the unproven claims of violence- during a traffic stop," Finch said.
Finch and Flowers often cite the 2010 deaths of two police officers in West Memphis, Ark., who were shot by a father-son sovereign team during a traffic stop for a bogus license plate. One officer had become distracted by a thick sheaf of papers thrust at him by one of the sovereigns.
Yet more unproven claims, this time stating that paperwork is a distraction tool so that sovereigns can then murder police officers. Even if it did happen like that, it does not mean that it will repeat. And i am yet to see the seminar anywhere on the net, where i was advised to issue notice then gunfire.
Finch said he instructs officers to ignore paperwork other than license and registration. -this looks like a heads up and public notice as to how they propose to deal with you. If they seek to ignore your notices, blue-tac them to your window so they cannot talk to you without reading the notice- "Your antennae should immediately go up," he tells officers. "They refuse to recognize your authority, and that creates a dangerous situation." What law creates this obligation? To recognise that the police have authority over us? Dangerous situations are created by the police routinely, but their violence on us is fine. Why isn't Finch holding classes to teach us how to react to their violence against us?
As recently as August, two sheriff's deputies in Laplace, La., were shot and killed in an ambush.
Another sentence another piece of programming via an unproven claim. This one is the violence program.
Police said at least two of the five men accused in the killings were sovereign citizens.
In Florida, police approached Wright carefully because he had told them in past encounters that he was not subject to police authority. Wright paid his taxes with a handwritten "coupon for payment," -not a true sovereign according to the definition offered earlier in this article whereby the journalist claimed that a central tenet of the sovereign's philosophy was not paying taxes- said Deputy Richard Aloy of the Santa Rosa Sheriff's Department. He had renounced his U.S. citizenship.
"They knew they had a bad individual, -because he said that he was no longer their slave- and they took the necessary precautions," -which were?- Finch said.
Even nonviolent sovereigns can cause headaches through what Finch calls "paper terrorism."-another tired and dated phrase that has been used in many of these corporate hit pieces that appears to be the basis of Finch's 8 hour copy/paste seminars- Some squat in foreclosed homes and file phony deeds claiming ownership, "paying" with photos of silver dollars. -No proof of claim- Sovereigns believe U.S. currency has no value -artificially inflated value, but some do confuse this issue and say no value- but recognize precious metals as valid currency. -Well, again, some do, whilst some recognise that the elites have cornered this market and believe the answer lies in creating our currency for our own community.
Many sovereigns — including the father-son team in the Arkansas shooting — hold seminars of their own in which they charge for lessons on redemption and tax avoidance. "You pay them in cash for them to tell you money has no value," Finch said.
We do need to create and use our own currency, something like bit coin, so there is an element of truth in this, but of course, there is an element of necessity to provide for suitable interactions in the community for all parties.
Officials from Greensboro and other cities pushed for a new North Carolina law that makes filing false liens a felony rather than a misdemeanor. -They are getting worried. How do you define a false lien? In the same manner that the law books do?- Finch said the law, coupled with training of court officials, has helped block or dismiss many phony liens and nuisance lawsuits.
But sovereigns continue to file suits and liens, hoping to claim property and damages, -back onto the baseless claims as we near the end of the article- Finch said.
At one meeting Finch attended, a charismatic sovereign citizen told a rapt audience that U.S. currency has no value. -again, little value, not, no value- But he also explained how to redeem millions of dollars from secret U.S. Treasury accounts, and how to use the courts to evade government control and taxes.
Afterward, Finch said, he asked the man what he did for a living. He was a U.S. Postal Service worker.
Finch asked how he justified working for a government he considered illegitimate. "He told me he needed the money to live out his ideology," he said.
Well this guy is a problem. You can't have it both ways. Either you are a slave. Or, you are free. He isn't indicative of the movement, but is indicative of an aspect of the movement that seeks glory, fame and money by teaching stuff that they are not living. This guy does not appear to really be one of us. Is this why Finch attended? Or is this so-called guru as fictional as most of the baseless claims expressed in this article?
david.zucchino@latimes.com
http://articles.latimes.com/2013/apr/05/nation/la-na-sovereigns-20130406
As recently as August, two sheriff's deputies in Laplace, La., were shot and killed in an ambush.
Another sentence another piece of programming via an unproven claim. This one is the violence program.
Police said at least two of the five men accused in the killings were sovereign citizens.
In Florida, police approached Wright carefully because he had told them in past encounters that he was not subject to police authority. Wright paid his taxes with a handwritten "coupon for payment," -not a true sovereign according to the definition offered earlier in this article whereby the journalist claimed that a central tenet of the sovereign's philosophy was not paying taxes- said Deputy Richard Aloy of the Santa Rosa Sheriff's Department. He had renounced his U.S. citizenship.
"They knew they had a bad individual, -because he said that he was no longer their slave- and they took the necessary precautions," -which were?- Finch said.
Even nonviolent sovereigns can cause headaches through what Finch calls "paper terrorism."-another tired and dated phrase that has been used in many of these corporate hit pieces that appears to be the basis of Finch's 8 hour copy/paste seminars- Some squat in foreclosed homes and file phony deeds claiming ownership, "paying" with photos of silver dollars. -No proof of claim- Sovereigns believe U.S. currency has no value -artificially inflated value, but some do confuse this issue and say no value- but recognize precious metals as valid currency. -Well, again, some do, whilst some recognise that the elites have cornered this market and believe the answer lies in creating our currency for our own community.
Many sovereigns — including the father-son team in the Arkansas shooting — hold seminars of their own in which they charge for lessons on redemption and tax avoidance. "You pay them in cash for them to tell you money has no value," Finch said.
We do need to create and use our own currency, something like bit coin, so there is an element of truth in this, but of course, there is an element of necessity to provide for suitable interactions in the community for all parties.
Officials from Greensboro and other cities pushed for a new North Carolina law that makes filing false liens a felony rather than a misdemeanor. -They are getting worried. How do you define a false lien? In the same manner that the law books do?- Finch said the law, coupled with training of court officials, has helped block or dismiss many phony liens and nuisance lawsuits.
But sovereigns continue to file suits and liens, hoping to claim property and damages, -back onto the baseless claims as we near the end of the article- Finch said.
At one meeting Finch attended, a charismatic sovereign citizen told a rapt audience that U.S. currency has no value. -again, little value, not, no value- But he also explained how to redeem millions of dollars from secret U.S. Treasury accounts, and how to use the courts to evade government control and taxes.
Afterward, Finch said, he asked the man what he did for a living. He was a U.S. Postal Service worker.
Finch asked how he justified working for a government he considered illegitimate. "He told me he needed the money to live out his ideology," he said.
Well this guy is a problem. You can't have it both ways. Either you are a slave. Or, you are free. He isn't indicative of the movement, but is indicative of an aspect of the movement that seeks glory, fame and money by teaching stuff that they are not living. This guy does not appear to really be one of us. Is this why Finch attended? Or is this so-called guru as fictional as most of the baseless claims expressed in this article?
david.zucchino@latimes.com
http://articles.latimes.com/2013/apr/05/nation/la-na-sovereigns-20130406
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